Appealed but still rejected

Hello all,

I have nominated the following bird wall, it got rejected, I appealed and it was rejected again. I don’t necessarily want to force a PokeStop so if it doesn’t get accepted, so be id, however I can’t work out why it is getting rejected.

The following is a bird wall on a walking trail that I use as a route and it is located on a popular walking trail where I live.

Description on submission:
A bird wall that is located on the Filey pastures walking trail route.

Additional submitted information:
This is a bird wall located on the Filey pastures walking trail. This is a well used walking trail on the outskirts of Filey. Benches are also located and it is a good place to sit in nature.

Any suggestions?

What was the Rejection Reason?

What was said on the appeal Rejection?

Was it from “Our Team” or “Reviewers”

What was the location? (Long / Lat shown on the email received when you nominated it).

Hello and welcome @Rayquaza006

Here is another bird screen that is having problems

Its an ongoing saga and I dont know why

Thanks for the reply.

In the appeal email it says:

Unfortunately, Niantic has decided that your nomination should not be added as a Wayspot. Keep in mind that any changes based on this decision can take up to 48 hours to be reflected in Niantic products that will use this Wayspot.

In the post I have:

Reviewers provided these top reasons for not accepting this submission:
  1. The submission lacks uniqueness or historical and cultural meaning

Location is:
Can’t quite work out how to find that so have done via Google, will be about right but not exact. 54.21839° N, 0.29519° W

Very interesting, thanks for linking. It’s a shame because in my opinion, it fits the criteria quite well and is part of my daily walking route.

I would definitely re-submit.

Push more on the “Explore” criteria “A great spot to explore the varied bird species and other wildlife that call Filey Pastures home.”

There might be a cultural issue going on. To someone unfamiliar with blinds this could just look like a random fence. Maybe add a link to a page describing similar blinds and how they are important and useful.

Two similar bird screens with the same problem is interesting, if disappointing. Different materials but exactly the same type of POI.

This is clearly a bird screen, for anyone who has an understanding of them. Scopely Explore didn’t reverse the appeal rejection for the earlier one even after a long discussion of it here, so it isn’t simply a lack of understanding that this is a bird screen as opposed to a random fence.

It appears to be Scopely Explore determining that bird screens are not eligible.

Push the exploration angle. Don’t talk about what else is nearby as justification for this POI.

If I’m not going down the bird screen angle, what would the title of the new stop be? Should I take a picture of the walking trail with the bird screen to the side and call it a walking trail?

I don’t recommend this. Without the bird screen as the focal point, this is just an indistinct location on a path. With the bird screen as the focal point, the wayspot isn’t the path but the bird screen.

I think you should stick with this object.

I have looked at your description and supplementary that you posted at the start I think you could improve this.

Another common problem with areas like this is proving location.

For example you refer to it as bird wall. That is not a term I am familiar with.

The supplementary doesn’t explain what it is or provide information about its or the birds you may see etc.

If this all seems not worth the effort then there is a bench there. what is the view from the bench?

I didn’t read this properly before. The description and supporting is perfectly OK and would work fine if this was a virtually-guaranteed submission. It isn’t, for whatever reasons. This means you have to put more effort into the description and the supporting text.

(Also, I think “bird viewing screen” is better than “bird wall”, as the latter is an unusual phrase and the former seems to make more sense, as you are being screened from the birds. Obviously not a bird hide or blind, as it isn’t those.)

Submitted again with different photos, title and description. Rejected again.

I have appealed, really not sure what I can do to get it over the line. If this doesn’t work I will likely give up.

On appeals, I would sometimes link to community discussions.

Not sure if it ever made any difference (as it would include a summary of the discussion anyway). :->