# Are Crosses invalid now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Nomination Support\ **Created:** [August 9, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990 "2025-08-09T13:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/1 "2025-08-09T13:53:57Z")
hello, I am wondering: since when crosses became unillegible? ![IMG_4317](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/1/f/1f48704ebcd365bd599eb711131fb74184c8f397.jpeg) ![IMG_4316](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/f/e/fefb41e9d4b15ce36e3a4f6788f8793b52e1eb17.jpeg) ![IMG_4315](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/8/2/827c95441dfd37836af0c030305fbcb5cbd6732b.jpeg) All my cross nominations are rejected by AI, and with appeals I get only “blah blah blah, we think, cross are not good, it’s not unique, not for people, go away”. Is there any new restrictions against crosses? ---
**Author:** ![cyndiepooh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@cyndiepooh](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/cyndiepooh)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/2 "2025-08-09T13:58:40Z")
Can you pick one that you are especially confused as to why it wasn’t accepted and show us screenshots from your contributions page? There may be another issue going on besides whether a cross is eligible. > [@moscowtrainer](#): > > Is there any new restrictions against crosses? No. ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/3 "2025-08-09T14:02:50Z")
Let’s check this one for example (it doesn’t matter which to choose, they all are pretty same: I mean title, description, pedestrian access etc). ![IMG_4318](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/3/b/3b902acf793af309a6b7f7cf3a382ab28fb90297.jpeg) ![IMG_4319](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/d/5/d5e3414229fe147fafb2efc5025d77f2fafcfe45.jpeg) ![IMG_4320](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/c/f/cf372498dc5cc79c261e4bea59d002f3109d5ae9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/4 "2025-08-09T14:08:10Z")
Hello As @cyndiepooh has said please provide more information please. I’m slightly confused as some of these are not what I would consider crosses and a name such as triangle power does not convey what I expect from a cross. The triangle power appears as though it might be on private residential property. So please tell us more. ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/5 "2025-08-09T14:09:14Z")
I also assume, that since out of my latest 40+ nominations ONLY crosses were automatically rejected, there is some trigger in AI 😑 ---
**Author:** ![CrownFeather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@CrownFeather](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/CrownFeather)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/6 "2025-08-09T14:11:33Z")
What is the purpose of that metal structure? What kind of experience will you and others have when you visit that place? Please tell us. ---
**Author:** ![Gendgi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/gendgi/32/333_2.png) [@Gendgi](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Gendgi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/7 "2025-08-09T14:12:41Z")
> [@moscowtrainer](#): > > All my cross nominations are rejected by AI Have you had previous crosses like this approved? If so, what sort of texts were used on them? ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/8 "2025-08-09T14:13:18Z")
I specifically didn’t use anything with “cross” in title/description to avoid automatic reject by AI. Didn’t help. Also, what you see as “not normal” cross is traditional orthodox Georgian (country Georgia) cross. As for “triangle power”- here you go. Regular counryside. ![IMG_4321](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/e/9/e96f7207c08020ab2b6c85de95a5b172efa48d29.jpeg) ![IMG_4322](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/8/5/85b7249d5b10e692207f5e21fb2c8e053aa679f5.jpeg) ![IMG_4323](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/a/7/a7184af0ee87b691468fca5240376e00fc60845e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/9 "2025-08-09T14:14:44Z")
In Eastern Europe crosses are all over the places. When people are passing by it is a tradition to have a little pray next to it. ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/10 "2025-08-09T14:15:21Z")
The text is not very religious sounding ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/11 "2025-08-09T14:22:18Z")
Well… I have some…….. ![IMG_4324](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/8/6/8606eeca7359f3ba764f15bd2701fd0b457ff5d0.jpeg) ![IMG_4325](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/7/f/7fc156c5d83ec28213f2561c4444fd91d0493c16.jpeg) ![IMG_4326](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/e/2/e2466cc40c914081e4187232abc08d8170ea679e.jpeg) ![IMG_4327](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/a/0/a0adf9e5dcb99a5c122694db855d15967976085e.jpeg) ![IMG_4328](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/3/9/3933a4fb68195322cb3d7255e7b36353d40812e8.jpeg) ![IMG_4331](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/a/3/a393eb2b50467834ecfea76198fd5cf90bc9bfb5.jpeg) ![IMG_4330](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/8/7/875f601baad97f90aa44b735d11950041d86b769.jpeg) ![IMG_4329](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/8/6/86b00941a13626f32b6d6266d941a7fec9809693.jpeg) ![IMG_4332](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/4/0/40eaa35e3c682834b24892d6827a71ee56b3c9e1.jpeg) ![IMG_4333](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/b/d/bdfc224144e454f0e9717bde6ec336ff5dd8b81c.jpeg) ![IMG_4336](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/1/1/111a89d84e504b91263a3c0166094fad66e7292f.jpeg) ![IMG_4337](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/5/a/5a908f645bf278eca11dcb8a8a95c5d399baf38d.jpeg) ![IMG_4338](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/b/c/bc6e0d02f750846501af0e95a6d0c1548c89d9e4.jpeg) ![IMG_4339](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/b/3/b3a22f29940a838462f41c03541fc7db7b62d9e4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/12 "2025-08-09T14:25:06Z")
Omg…. it does not matter what is written. It could be even just written “Cross” and would it be rejected by AI. I specifically made it less “Cross”-ish to pass the AI but didn’t help much. In our community I’m not the only one facing that problem now, others also got rejects just for nomination being cross. And there was written Cross-cross-cross ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/13 "2025-08-09T14:38:31Z")
Again, I wouldn’t mind, IF I’d be rejected by reviewers by specific reason. It’s frustrating to not even get pass by Emily 🙄🙄🙄 ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/14 "2025-08-09T14:52:44Z")
Thanks for these where you had a positive outcome. It is interesting to see these and some create a different impression to the ones rejected, and your question is about the rejected ones. The text does matter. White in the dark - a cross for praying This clear as to what it is and its purpose as a religious place. These older ones had cross in them. What makes you think that now that is something that needs to be avoided? Previously the term Georgian Cross was used. Again a specific term that helps explain what it is . Triangle Power and Iron Fate are titles that don’t succinctly reflect the object. ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/15 "2025-08-09T14:55:23Z")
Do you really need me to send here rejections from other players where it was recently used “cross” instead of someone who can check Emily will come and confirm mistake in her judgment? ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/16 "2025-08-09T14:58:16Z")
Emily seems to have done an appropriate job here of picking out a mismatch between picture title and description. Since appeals have not been successful perhaps the learning to take away is that although you don’t think it is necessary perhaps you do need to say more. I also think you need to reconsider the supplementary “ you know what to do” This could be interpreted as a basic line saying I have nothing more to say. Or it could be interpreted as a way to vote. Best to avoid the later interpretation by using the supplementary to add to the religious significance and location information. ---
**Author:** ![hankwolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7feea3/32.png) [@hankwolfman](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/hankwolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/17 "2025-08-09T14:59:18Z")
It really does matter what is written. If I got these through my review queue, I’d probably reject them as they’ve been submitted, and I would choose a rejection reason relating to the title or description being low quality. Your descriptions are not at all descriptive, and your supporting info is not supportive in the slightest. You can definitely put more effort into these areas to improve your chances. I have never seen crosses like this before, so the strange shape of them would make me want to know more about them, which is what the description field is for. The supporting info should be helping reviewers understand why the crosses meet the criteria. I will say that I suspect the pictures might still fail to get past ML even if you do improve the text, mostly because the crosses are quite narrow and this increases the amount of non-cross imagery in the photo, which ML might interpret as being nothing noteworthy, but with better text you’d at least stand a decent chance of getting things accepted on appeal if they do fall foul of ML. ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/18 "2025-08-09T15:00:13Z")
Your question was about your nominations and you supplied information. I personally have had no issues with the term cross. Machine learning as I understand it is not fed a set of words to act as triggers for rejections. ---
**Author:** ![CrownFeather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@CrownFeather](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/CrownFeather)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/19 "2025-08-09T15:05:16Z")
Sorry for asking such a strange question. In Japan, religious objects such as Jizo statues are also enshrined on the streets. Jizo statues managed by local communities in particular have specific names. Once a year, a festival called Jizo Bon is held in front of the Jizo statues enshrined in the community, where local residents gather to eat, drink, and socialize. It may be important to craft the text in such a way as to convey the religious significance of the crosses on the streets. ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/20 "2025-08-09T15:08:05Z")
Explain this then. IF you think words does matter. ![IMG_4342](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/4/e/4e25c713929d2c5d836b4b877d853fe1dd847c57.jpeg) ![IMG_4343](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/1/e/1e08622ab14db0b7be8acad67051be47dc5a7d63.jpeg) ![IMG_4344](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/e/1/e1d78d1c2bd3367044f3ece36851ac7b42aa20cf.jpeg) [Next page](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990.md?page=2)