# Are Crosses invalid now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Nomination Support\ **Created:** [August 9, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990 "2025-08-09T13:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/21 "2025-08-09T15:11:27Z")
Oh, please tell, that you describe all children playgrounds with 500-word text. Don’t need to exaggerate about description of… cross. It’s cross. And sadly, nothing else in suburb is valid sometimes to nominate, and I’m a bit tired of all them named just “Cross” with no signification even where or which is it. And by the “you wouldn’t understand it”. Well, gladly nominations are visible just within certain distance, and where I submit them there is no need to clarify what is cross and why it’s submitted. ---
**Author:** ![Gendgi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/gendgi/32/333_2.png) [@Gendgi](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Gendgi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/22 "2025-08-09T15:13:55Z")
I wonder if the best course of action for you is to try and understand and take the advice being offered or double down that “cross, cross, cross” is acceptable when clearly it is not? ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/23 "2025-08-09T15:15:59Z")
I’ve just posted screenshots from other player, where Emily auto-reject cross-cross-cross recently. Any suggestions? 😂😂😂 ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/24 "2025-08-09T15:18:11Z")
What did the Niantic notes about the appeal say? That should give a clear indication as to why the human rejected it. As for Emily ….this what Google lens said when it looked at the picture ![IMG_0401](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/a/6/a66dd1276e5ffbf6eaea116a98bf2b142b2dd419.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![hankwolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7feea3/32.png) [@hankwolfman](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/hankwolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/25 "2025-08-09T15:19:30Z")
> [@moscowtrainer](#): > > Oh, please tell, that you describe all children playgrounds with 500-word text. I never said you needed 500 words. You could describe a playground in a single sentence and it would still be much better than “feel the force”. The cross you’re submitting isn’t from a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away for a start. ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/26 "2025-08-09T15:23:02Z")
So you are saying, that no matter what, all the submissions must be only written just what it is, right? No need of creativity, diversity, right? And you also might be shocked, but “force” doesn’t exist only in Star Wars. * * * \*\*\*Mod edit to remove inappropriate text ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/27 "2025-08-09T15:25:08Z")
Here you go. ![IMG_4346](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/8/9/89aaf3a54fcf3985bdad7a0eeec1be51ed035581.jpeg) As for Emily… so what’s wrong with her again? ---
**Author:** ![Xenopus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/xenopus/32/378_2.png) [@Xenopus](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Xenopus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/28 "2025-08-09T15:30:33Z")
Hey, 1. can I please ask you to stay respectful to the people giving correct advice? and 2. have you considered that correlation was not causation, and just because a nomination with a specific word in it was rejected doesn’t mean that there is automatically a hard filter against that word? I assure you the community would have noticed. ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/29 "2025-08-09T15:31:43Z")
The AI in google lens saw mainly a building some cars And maybe a cross It was 3rd on the list of what the photo was about. As the text didn’t elaborate that it was of religious significance- not all cross shapes are - Emily presummably said it was unlikely to meet criteria. The human reviewer specified that **This** cross from the evidence given did not meet acceptablity criteria. You need to take onboard that feedback and the feedback freely provided and change your approach or else you are likely just to have more frustration. ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/30 "2025-08-09T15:33:10Z")
That’s exactly what I’m asking to explain. Before relaunch of Emily there was zero problems with it. Now not just Emily staying only on rejection mode rather also accepting, like it was before, but also rejections are mainly ALL crosses. So that was my initial question, not question, how to improve my nominations. ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/31 "2025-08-09T15:35:54Z")
Please, tell me, what is definition if cross is eligible or not. Before you said that description wasn’t good enough. Now that cross is not good enough. I want to learn from people with more knowledge, to avoid further frustrations. ---
**Author:** ![cyndiepooh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@cyndiepooh](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/cyndiepooh)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/32 "2025-08-09T15:48:46Z")
The answer to your original question then is “no.” Apologies for asking you to post so we could try to figure out what might be causing the rejection. ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/33 "2025-08-09T15:49:27Z")
I think that a title such as Georgian Cross - and something that makes it unique eg specific location or if there is something else about that particular cross that makes it distinctive. I think that your description should refer to it as a religious object that people may stop and pray at would helpful. I presume you would be submitting under exploration criteria so why would someone go to this cross. Supplementary needs to perhaps say more about why they are made this way - local community that sort of thing. And with supplementary photo and text you should show clearly evidence of where it is and that sort of property it is on and safe to access. It is the sort of basics we are all expected to do. And it doesn’t guarantee smooth passage as we all will get caught by Emily sometimes ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/34 "2025-08-09T15:52:40Z")
So if I will describe with all that information all my rejections now, and then will get same reject on all my submissions by Emily, should I continue in this topic or start new? ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/35 "2025-08-09T15:54:18Z")
And all that discussion about what can Emily do and what it can’t is based on? ---
**Author:** ![GibborimHunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/13edae/32.png) [@GibborimHunter](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GibborimHunter)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/36 "2025-08-09T16:01:52Z")
For what it’s worth, I’ve had a couple crosses accepted, although they were attached to churches and not free standing sculptures, so to speak. I put them in the categories of “religious sculpture” and “cross” - my descriptions did contain the church name they were associated with, and they were uplighted, so that probably helped. I even had a unique church bell tower accepted, although I think was an exception, not the rule. It had brick cut-outs of crosses on the bell tower, which is a unique architecture. ![IMG_0943](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/5/d/5d72c517491d1e30732728ae596b77cb3d349ce6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![cyndiepooh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@cyndiepooh](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/cyndiepooh)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/37 "2025-08-09T16:04:31Z")
I would actually love to see you post here to let us know whether the suggestions given work or not. I do know that the ML (machine learning ai) model has trouble separating out background in a photo. I think that a closer focus might help some of these - not so close that it can’t detect the context of the environment. For that first one, I might try a crop like this for the main photo: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/a/4/a4d3af6703d6b7f5d79c8913f057af3892a594bd.jpeg) I always take my photos first, then usually crop the main photo to square to get the best proportions for how the game uses the photos, unless a square photo looks bad for the point of interest I am submitting. See if a photo like that gets past the “automated process.” For the text, I agree with making it clear what you are submitting. I wouldn’t have known that wasn’t just a power pole of some kind if you hadn’t told me. Some reviewers may have even rejected this thinking that “stop” was a game reference in the description. ”You know what to do” sounds like influencing voters, which is also a rejection reason. I just put whatever extra information that I did not include in the description in the supporting section that reveiwers need to know in order to accept my nomination. Something like, “Meets exploration criteria. Can be seen on Street View.” I hope you begin to find success with these. ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/38 "2025-08-09T16:06:45Z")
If they get rejected by Emily you appeal. That is what I have had to do in similar circumstances. If none of that passes then you have to consider whether you are submitting something that is eligible or not. There is no evidence of any systemic issue. ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/39 "2025-08-09T16:08:54Z")
Fingers **cross** ed?😂 ![IMG_4352](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/7/e/7e0b79e500e349e45723e551d91ce2af534bafdd.jpeg) ![IMG_4354](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/4/7/4712854d9ac04eecc486f6883cbf17937e16a8d1.jpeg) ![IMG_4353](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/3X/a/f/af5a0fda44dbc9ce922d2aa3240d1bedd1c28bd7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![moscowtrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@moscowtrainer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/moscowtrainer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990/40 "2025-08-09T16:10:19Z")
So after all that discussion and suggestions, you are saying, that no matter what I will do, if nothing will be accepted-it’s just “well, that happens, try to figure out yourself what’s wrong”? 😂😂😂 [Previous page](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-crosses-invalid-now/105990.md?page=3)