# Are post boxes automatic rejections now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Nomination Support\ **Created:** [May 14, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974 "2024-05-14T21:47:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sublancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@sublancer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/sublancer)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/1 "2024-05-14T21:47:25Z")
The AI rejected my nomination due to “wayfarer criteria”. I have no idea what that means so I am unable to improve my submission. Or maybe post boxes are now ineligible. How am I supposed to know? ![PO Box.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/4/48eeb61dd09b37ccc9026f7996469aaa18d65932.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DTrain2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@DTrain2002](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/DTrain2002)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/2 "2024-05-14T21:53:13Z")
You may want to see this topic: > [@UK Postboxes Topic](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/uk-postboxes-topic/174): > > Originally posted on the Niantic Wayfarer Vanilla forums in March 2023 and has had minor updates One thing that people in the UK seem to enjoy [citation needed] discussing is our various postboxes which are marked with royal cyphers, so I wanted to look at a few things. I am not asking for clarifications or a yes/no, despite posting here, but thought it was probably the right place for it and to try and make some kind of timeline of threads that discuss it, and some details about official view… ---
**Author:** ![sublancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@sublancer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/sublancer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/3 "2024-05-15T01:12:49Z")
Thanks I read it but didn’t get any conclusion from it. Then it evolved into a discussion on coal tax posts. I’d like to know two things: Can we still submit post boxes? And can we have clearer feedback so we don’t waste hours of our time submitting and resubmitting without any idea what we are doing wrong? ---
**Author:** ![DTrain2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@DTrain2002](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/DTrain2002)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/4 "2024-05-15T02:34:41Z")
Sorry, but I’m not from the UK, which is why I suggested the UK postbox topic. And yes, topics get out of hand at times here, moving quite a ways away from the topic at times. ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/5 "2024-05-15T06:21:14Z")
When they started using the auto system, Emily, to check submissions we started seeing auto rejects of postboxes. There is also little point in appealing because the appeals team doesn’t like them like we do. If you can get past auto reject then U.K. reviewers will normally accept a GR one. It’s not impossible to get past Emily. I think we concluded that the focus needs to be on the cypher in the photo and the text. Maybe someone else can post a recent success? ---
**Author:** ![PkmnTrainerJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/pkmntrainerj/32/21_2.png) [@PkmnTrainerJ](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/PkmnTrainerJ)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/6 "2024-05-15T08:39:31Z")
You can still submit postboxes if you believe they meet the criteria (I think they do). However as mentioned, Machine Learning doesn’t like them for whatever reason, and the Appeal reviewers do not understand the nuances of the UK postboxes so you do have a few barriers to get through. I would resubmit this one if you can. ---
**Author:** ![PkmnTrainerJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/pkmntrainerj/32/21_2.png) [@PkmnTrainerJ](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/PkmnTrainerJ)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 8:40am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/7 "2024-05-15T08:40:57Z")
As for recent success, this was March, if that helps anyone. ![IMG_1859](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/b/b7cd8bff66392ac4dbb2758bdc9612d0b11b28a2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![hankwolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7feea3/32.png) [@hankwolfman](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/hankwolfman)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 8:49am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/8 "2024-05-15T08:49:17Z")
To echo @PkmnTrainerJ 's experience, I also had an Edward VII box accepted in March. ---
**Author:** ![shritwod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@shritwod](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/shritwod)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 8:59am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/9 "2024-05-15T08:59:26Z")
Got this accepted on the fourth attempt in January, AI rejected before and then rejected in appeal. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/d/d6ad62d3b096c3a6ac29183b7ef52a2d8abbd558.jpeg) This one went straight through… ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/c/cfb2bbee64c64a631779058375d8351e24a9a232.jpeg) Honestly, I still don’t know what triggers the AI. That looks like a perfectly reasonable wayspot to me. ---
**Author:** ![26thDoctor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e274bd/32.png) [@26thDoctor](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/26thDoctor)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/10 "2024-05-15T09:11:00Z")
TL;DR Niantic have never really clarified what is acceptable. VR, GRVI, ERVII, ERVIII and anonymous will most likely be accepted by reviewers. GR maybe, EIIR no, Scottish crown no. Emily might reject any of the above. Don’t base what you see in game on what you can submit. ---
**Author:** ![shritwod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@shritwod](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/shritwod)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/11 "2024-05-15T14:02:13Z")
If Niantic had guidelines for UK postboxes, they’d probably need guidelines for _all_ postboxes worldwide… ---
**Author:** ![gazzas89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ebca7d/32.png) [@gazzas89](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/gazzas89)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/12 "2024-05-15T15:46:57Z")
Ive stopped calling them post boxes and instead say cyper, seems to get by the ai fikter every time. Or call ot a pillar box ---
**Author:** ![NikiShadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e79b87/32.png) [@NikiShadow](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/NikiShadow)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/13 "2024-06-01T10:09:57Z")
![1000042413](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/f/fe6ee3e6ffba635872f2322b1d2fb5402ec6adfc.jpeg) I would like to get a clarification as to why this was rejected? I manged to get it past the ai auto rejection after changing the postbox name to pillarbox, it got through to voting a few days ago but when i checked today it said rejected 🤔 This is the second time i have submited, could be gettinf rejected bc its in a residential road area? (I have seen other postboxes get accepted in residential roads…) Could it be that i just need to keep trying to get it through thr ai bot rejection or change the description abit more so its not as generic? (English is my second language, am im mot good with coming up woth sentences :\<) ---
**Author:** ![PkmnTrainerJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/pkmntrainerj/32/21_2.png) [@PkmnTrainerJ](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/PkmnTrainerJ)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/14 "2024-06-02T16:43:07Z")
It shouldn’t be the case but I wonder if people are rejecting it due to the vandalism (graffiti) on it. Worth raising to Royal Mail/your local council to clean it up and see if it then fares better? ---
**Author:** ![elijustrying](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/elijustrying/32/25162_2.png) [@elijustrying](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/elijustrying)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/15 "2024-06-02T16:56:58Z")
Yes I wondered about the aspect, as it shouldn’t matter. Could you try taking a picture miving round a little so the vandalism was not there so much? And more cropped on the postbox . ---
**Author:** ![hankwolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7feea3/32.png) [@hankwolfman](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/hankwolfman)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/16 "2024-06-02T17:00:53Z")
The graffiti would probably be my guess as well. It shouldn’t prevent it being acceptable (unless the graffiti was vulgar), but I can imagine it putting some reviewers off. I’m curious what you put in your supporting statement as well. My last two George Vs were both approved. ---
**Author:** ![shritwod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@shritwod](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/shritwod)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/17 "2024-06-04T15:11:37Z")
Looks eligible to me. However, it’s a little slanted and might be better if you could somehow magic the cars out of the way (there are no number plates that I can see, so that’s good). The graffiti may put some people off, there’s nothing really you can do about that other than use a different angle. They get repainted every five years apparently… ---
**Author:** ![cyndiepooh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@cyndiepooh](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/cyndiepooh)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/18 "2024-06-04T15:15:27Z")
I usually don’t follow anything about postboxes since that does not apply to me, but I am wondering about comments like this about the vandalism > [@elijustrying](#): > > as it shouldn’t matter “Vandalized photos” are to be rejected: [Niantic Wayfarer](https://wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/new/help/photo-guidelines) If that doesn’t mean to reject photos of vandalism, how do you interpret that? ---
**Author:** ![gazzas89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ebca7d/32.png) [@gazzas89](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/gazzas89)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/19 "2024-06-04T16:44:33Z")
Given that in scotland pretty much everything get spray painted, we tend not to be harsh about vandalism on things so long as its just paint, not broken lol ---
**Author:** ![shritwod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@shritwod](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/shritwod)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974/20 "2024-06-04T17:17:38Z")
Photos that are themselves vandalised? But surely that’s the same as “Obviously edited or doctored photos”? [Next page](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/are-post-boxes-automatic-rejections-now/11974.md?page=2)