# Niantic seems to have lost the plot entirely

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**Category:** Wayspot Appeals\
**Created:** [September 16, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642 "2024-09-16T22:44:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GeneralSecura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@GeneralSecura](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GeneralSecura)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/25 "2024-09-17T18:55:36Z")

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I see those six wayspots have been restored. Good. Just don’t make me come back here 7 months from now to get them restored a third time.

And now the rest of my list, please. And judging by the look of things, there might be some new additions in a bit because it seems Niantic has been busy today too.

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**Author:** ![Leedle95](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Leedle95](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Leedle95)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/26 "2024-09-17T19:49:15Z")

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Yes, it’s right there in each. Seriously. 🤦🏻

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**Author:** ![Leedle95](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Leedle95](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Leedle95)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/27 "2024-09-17T19:52:31Z")

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Thanks. Still exceptions and not the rule, right? Most people wouldn’t jump for joy or go protect their wall if a street artist came and painted their property for most street artists.

We can’t keep trying to make rules for exceptional circumstances. The general idea is that most things fall into the most general category, and then it’s possible to make exceptions for exceptional situations, right?

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**Author:** ![GeneralSecura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@GeneralSecura](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GeneralSecura)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/28 "2024-09-17T19:53:58Z")

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None of these are on anyone’s private property.

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**Author:** ![P1dg3ySlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@P1dg3ySlayer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/P1dg3ySlayer)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/29 "2024-09-17T19:54:03Z")

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Graffiti on private property has never been allowed… so that’s a non-issue.

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**Author:** ![Leedle95](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Leedle95](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Leedle95)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/30 "2024-09-17T19:55:58Z")

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I didn’t say anything about private property and the definitions say private or public property. Even public property typically has someone who has authority to approve how it is used.

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**Author:** ![GeneralSecura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@GeneralSecura](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GeneralSecura)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/31 "2024-09-17T20:01:30Z")

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And clearly the city approves of it, since they wouldn’t have made an entire website dedicated to showing off local street art if they didn’t.

> **[Street-art in Eindhoven | This is Eindhoven](https://www.thisiseindhoven.com/en/see-and-do/culture-and-design/street-art-in-eindhoven)**
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> Wander through the vibrant streets of the open-air museum in Eindhoven, where at every corner, you are treated to breathtaking street art.

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**Author:** ![MachokeOnDeez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MachokeOnDeez](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/MachokeOnDeez)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/32 "2024-09-17T21:22:16Z")

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I imagine people would also try to get it removed from their property if it wasn’t welcome. So it would already fail the requirements due to not being permanent.

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**Author:** ![Leedle95](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Leedle95](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Leedle95)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/33 "2024-09-17T21:57:24Z")

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That’s fine. As a particular case. You had lots of different examples above. We weren’t talking about a particular case, we were talking about what’s considered vandalism and what isn’t considered vandalism. As long as when you submit, you provide evidence that it is truly sanctioned, it shouldn’t be a problem. But it is on the submitter to make that clear, in most cases.

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**Author:** ![GeneralSecura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@GeneralSecura](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GeneralSecura)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/34 "2024-09-17T22:55:26Z")

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Found plenty more unjustified removals in today’s batch.

 ![Screenshot_20240918_003811_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/4/40c0ee0b12b52ba0b7b857c4d1e8c0a77f6ee13a.jpeg)  
This one is part of a series that’s literally featured on the city’s street art website as seen here: [Walls with Paint: Sockets | This is Eindhoven](https://www.thisiseindhoven.com/en/see-and-do/tips-by-locals/walls-with-paint-sockets)

 ![Screenshot_20240918_003925_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/4/41bf58fd51d278e80c37525591e9863f3b2f5628.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot_20240918_004340_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/1/1a8613011226e7f028b75b42545059c4c9b7f974.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot_20240918_003855_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/4/4b857c370181f7eec3baab1054e8b4b09969701c.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot_20240918_003824_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/c/cfd6a9801e2cd6761de898c73351da0b98186940.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot_20240918_004202_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/7/77dcc29f454c2c45450188e68167ab941392d91a.jpeg)  
These five are all part of series of artpieces that are described in this article: [Walls with Paint: Traffic Lights | This is Eindhoven](https://www.thisiseindhoven.com/en/see-and-do/tips-by-locals/walls-with-paint-traffic-lights)

 ![Screenshot_20240918_004354_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/5/54437e5f3bbc67cc1b2488ed4a8edb9c2a5d6b12.jpeg)  
This one is part of this series of artpieces: [Walls with Paint: Mysterious machines | This is Eindhoven](https://www.thisiseindhoven.com/en/see-and-do/tips-by-locals/walls-with-paint-mysterious-machines)

 ![Screenshot_20240918_003907_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/d/d9823240beaf25439691ee2c54ee33304d1f8bb2.jpeg)  
This one is part of the same series that I listed three examples of in my first post.

 ![Screenshot_20240918_004409_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/c/c5acd4d842659abfbc56f5b7c1ebd92d392be864.jpeg)  
This is another cool piece that’s painted on the side of a wall that’s next to a church, so it’s not on any private residential property whatsoever.

 ![Screenshot_20240918_003841_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/a/a9f2612cd6d1b36513177e9ed27d4534ec34f4d9.jpeg)  
And this one is literally listed as explicitly eligible in the criteria clarifications.  
 ![Screenshot_20240918_005337_Samsung Internet](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/a/a77df9a18ef3650033c2748e1035b11c97d73c11.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot_20240918_005350_Samsung Internet](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/d/d27550c28d36d2a1977cce8593e3edfd17df442c.jpeg)  
It’s a unique piece of business signage that is very notable for the locksmith business it represents.

These can be added to the list, @ScopelyExpAaron

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**Author:** ![RoIi112](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/roii112/32/21417_2.png) [@RoIi112](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/RoIi112)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/35 "2024-09-18T01:42:11Z")

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The Red Orange Yellow is defaced and contains graffiti that isn’t allowed.

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**Author:** ![GeneralSecura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@GeneralSecura](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GeneralSecura)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/36 "2024-09-18T20:12:18Z")

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Today’s batch of removals was surprisingly light on the unjustified ones, though it was focused on a part of town I basically never go to, so maybe I missed a few, but the players from that neighborbood can appeal those if they want them back.

Today’s two misfires:

 ![Screenshot_20240918_212928_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/f/f72e7ead1fab18576ef9e4369ef35ebc73df4b25.jpeg)  
This little character has featured plenty of times in my earlier posts in this topic. This one is painted on a public skate ramp, so the location is clearly fine.

 ![Screenshot_20240918_212909_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/0/06586b4b8c3c05734849038224b3b35ba29f735d.jpeg)  
And this one doesn’t seem to be from any of the artpiece series I mentioned so far, but it’s still a nice-looking piece with a clear singular style that’s painted on a transformer box on a public sidewalk.

Add them to the list @ScopelyExpAaron

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**Author:** ![GeneralSecura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@GeneralSecura](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GeneralSecura)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/37 "2024-09-19T19:39:36Z")

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Got two more from today’s batch of removals.

 ![Screenshot_20240919_213132_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/a/a410518a6d34b4eb050a1123ba0bc5bcd76018da.jpeg)  
This is an informational sign about nearby bat shelters. I don’t see how this is in any way ineligible.

 ![Screenshot_20240919_213332_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/3/39905fc2bce6ff893c6876118d52612ec754189c.jpeg)  
And this is another artpiece from this series:

> **[Walls with Paint: Traffic Lights | This is Eindhoven](https://www.thisiseindhoven.com/en/see-and-do/tips-by-locals/walls-with-paint-traffic-lights)**
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> Every month, LukeDaDuke shares the story behind a special street art project in Eindhoven. This month: traffic control cabinets.

To the list they go @ScopelyExpAaron

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**Author:** ![RoIi112](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/roii112/32/21417_2.png) [@RoIi112](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/RoIi112)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/38 "2024-09-19T21:22:21Z")

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> [@GeneralSecura](#):
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> This is an informational sign about nearby bat shelters. I don’t see how this is in any way ineligible.

This was a duplicate, theres another waypoint for this sign.

> **[Ingress - Game Reality](https://intel.ingress.com/?pll=51.425154,5.471705)**
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> The world around you is not what it seems. Our future is at stake and you must choose a side. Join my faction in Ingress - a global game of mystery, intrigue and conquest.

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**Author:** ![Leedle95](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Leedle95](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Leedle95)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/39 "2024-09-19T21:31:17Z")

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> [@GeneralSecura](#):
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> This one is part of a series that’s literally featured on the city’s street art website as seen here: [Walls with Paint: Sockets | This is Eindhoven](https://www.thisiseindhoven.com/en/see-and-do/tips-by-locals/walls-with-paint-sockets)

I followed the link to read about the art project, but the website says these painted utility boxes are temporary. “For a couple of months, you can also find painted electricity sockets on power distribution boxes. They’re all by Dutch artist [Muugeherder](https://www.instagram.com/muugeherder/).”

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**Author:** ![RoIi112](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/roii112/32/21417_2.png) [@RoIi112](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/RoIi112)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/40 "2024-09-19T21:42:34Z")

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> [@GeneralSecura](#):
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> ![Screenshot_20240918_212928_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/f/f72e7ead1fab18576ef9e4369ef35ebc73df4b25.jpeg)
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> This little character has featured plenty of times in my earlier posts in this topic. This one is painted on a public skate ramp, so the location is clearly fine.

This skate ramp was removed sometime between April 2022 and July 2023

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/5/58ecfea012b6648cc30b31a10ebc9ff2e7d43b7b.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/8/80c05ebf2e9fcc06c3d71dfeadf0ca28e7fc55ab.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![RoIi112](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/roii112/32/21417_2.png) [@RoIi112](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/RoIi112)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/41 "2024-09-19T22:02:01Z")

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> [@GeneralSecura](#):
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> ![Screenshot_20240918_004409_Discord](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/c/c5acd4d842659abfbc56f5b7c1ebd92d392be864.jpeg)
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> This is another cool piece that’s painted on the side of a wall that’s next to a church, so it’s not on any private residential property whatsoever.

This Mural was painted over sometime between May 2022 and Oct 2022

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/f/f543e4e53873cf6324acc609017db9eb717d4127.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/f/fc51f1343c510bdb7f615392a0acfce1f9998cb8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![GeneralSecura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@GeneralSecura](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GeneralSecura)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/42 "2024-09-19T23:25:08Z")

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No. It’s just a bad translation. The original Dutch version of that page says “sinds een aantal maanden”, which accurately translates into “since a few months ago” or “for a few months now”. The writer means that those works have been around for a few months at the time of writing, and doesn’t mention anything about them ever being removed.

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**Author:** ![GeneralSecura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@GeneralSecura](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GeneralSecura)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/43 "2024-09-19T23:33:11Z")

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No, I’m pretty sure that’s the wayspot in question. The Ingress sync just hasn’t happened yet, which is why it’s still showing up. The Pokestop is gone already.

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**Author:** ![GeneralSecura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@GeneralSecura](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/GeneralSecura)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/niantic-seems-to-have-lost-the-plot-entirely/47642/44 "2024-09-19T23:34:10Z")

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![Screenshot_20240920_012220_Maps](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/a/adac3e7a73b33e55e4cdbe0c1c57894f6a075988.jpeg)  
Hmm, I can definitely still make out a structure on the satellite view that definitely looks like a skate ramp.

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