# Removal Appeal

**URL:** <https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578>\
**Category:** Wayspot Appeals\
**Tags:** missing-poi, appeal-removed-poi, ingress-faction-wars\
**Created:** [September 8, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578 "2024-09-08T17:17:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
**Page:** 1

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**Author:** ![Lappeau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a698b9/32.png) [@Lappeau](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Lappeau)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/1 "2024-09-08T17:17:11Z")

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I submitted a POI that was initially approved but was removed a few weeks later.  
Based on the submission criteria, this POI appears to qualify as a Portal.

- Wayspot Title: Monolith
- Location _(lat/lon)_: 48.854543, 2.470807
- City: Fontenay-sous-Bois
- Country: France
- Additional Information _(if any)_:

This a google street view screenshot on which the Sculpture is visible:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/a/a3d664b4782772f4a8f1cf52b66c71f343d6391b.jpeg)

Google street view URL of this screenshot:

https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=%213m2%212sen%214v0%216m8%211m7%211s4xwBRydQaTEq2RytUyVFZg%212m2%211d48.8545991%212d2.4706992%213f114.26%214f7.906%215f0.375

This sculpture is part of a set of similar sculptures located nearby.  
This is some of the other monoliths:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/1/1d730df5e48f753775fc4e262ce09c837f895411.jpeg)

https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=%213m2%212sen%214v0%216m8%211m7%211su5OGrpnu6LSZqn3G63kdOQ%212m2%211d48.8547374%212d2.4706892%213f57.04%214f7.643%215f0.375

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**Author:** ![P1dg3ySlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@P1dg3ySlayer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/P1dg3ySlayer)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/2 "2024-09-08T17:34:28Z")

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I’m struggling to see how this meets the criteria. What’s significant about this monolith that makes it stand out? Is there some specific history behind this? Is there a sign saying what this is? It just looks like an item placed in the flowerbed.

I may be missing something here, which isn’t impossible, but am genuinely interested to know more.

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**Author:** ![hankwolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7feea3/32.png) [@hankwolfman](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/hankwolfman)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/3 "2024-09-08T17:56:13Z")

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The wayspot still exists in the database from what I can see. I’m not sure why you can’t see it.

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**Author:** ![P1dg3ySlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@P1dg3ySlayer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/P1dg3ySlayer)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/4 "2024-09-08T18:19:38Z")

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Just noticed this.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/2/2168cd135d0204920692318f5321651a10d09474.jpeg)

The dark red marker is the co-ordinates provided. The red circle for Szlama Ejzman is slightly south. So it shouldn’t appear in Pogo, but may also fall into the 20m rule that won’t make it appear in Ingress.

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**Author:** ![Lappeau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a698b9/32.png) [@Lappeau](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Lappeau)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/5 "2024-09-08T19:55:58Z")

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It never appeared in pogo.  
But it appeared in Ingress before being removed few weeks later.

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**Author:** ![Lappeau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a698b9/32.png) [@Lappeau](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Lappeau)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/6 "2024-09-08T20:06:49Z")

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This monolith, like the others nearby, is carved from a single piece of basalt. In my opinion, it is a sculpture, which makes it a work of art.

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**Author:** ![P1dg3ySlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@P1dg3ySlayer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/P1dg3ySlayer)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/7 "2024-09-08T20:19:11Z")

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Ok. Maybe I am struggling to see the appeal of this submission. I personally need more convincing. May need some documented proof on, for example, a Government Website or something that would help me appreciate this. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![P1dg3ySlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@P1dg3ySlayer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/P1dg3ySlayer)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/9 "2024-09-09T10:24:41Z")

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Possibly other questions, but we’ll never know for sure. I’m only looking at this submission from a criteria point of view, and the only people who can really answer the question will be the Niantic Staff.

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**Author:** ![P1dg3ySlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@P1dg3ySlayer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/P1dg3ySlayer)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 12:03pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/11 "2024-09-09T12:03:04Z")

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Just checked again, the wayspot that exists in the same cell may not put the removed wayspot within the 20m rule for Ingress. So if it existed in Ingress before, it’s been removed now.

The nomination may exist in the Lightship DB, but it doesn’t exist in Pokemon Go and Ingress.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/original/2X/a/af6420a5a9734edf4aa3e92e27a29561485d84dd.jpeg)

The only people who can say for sure as to why it has been removed is Niantic.

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**Author:** ![ScopelyExpAaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/scopelyexpaaron/32/56681_2.png) [@ScopelyExpAaron](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/ScopelyExpAaron)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/12 "2024-09-09T13:01:58Z")

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> [@P1dg3ySlayer](#):
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> The only people who can say for sure as to why it has been removed is Niantic.

It has not been removed. It was never added to the gameboard. I have pushed a fix and it should appear on the gameboard in a few days.

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**Author:** ![P1dg3ySlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@P1dg3ySlayer](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/P1dg3ySlayer)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/13 "2024-09-09T13:03:46Z")

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Ahh fair enough. I misunderstood what the OP said in their first post.

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**Author:** ![ScopelyExpAaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wayfarer/user_avatar/community.wayfarer.scopely.com/scopelyexpaaron/32/56681_2.png) [@ScopelyExpAaron](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/ScopelyExpAaron)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/14 "2024-09-09T13:08:16Z")

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> [@P1dg3ySlayer](#):
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> I misunderstood what the OP said in their first post.

Not exactly. There was a duplicate that might have been live on the gameboard. It was retired. That could have tricked @Lappeau into thinking that the Wayspot was live and was later removed 🤔

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**Author:** ![Lappeau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a698b9/32.png) [@Lappeau](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/u/Lappeau)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.wayfarer.scopely.com/t/removal-appeal/45578/15 "2024-09-24T20:54:22Z")

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A follow up of this issue  
The portal has been restored after this initial report  
I appreciate your time and understanding in addressing this matter

Unfortunately, the portal has been removed once again this morning  
I am confident that it meets the required criteria for being a legitimate portal  
I don’t understand why it suddenly disappears like that once again
