Repeated Removal Appeal – Little Free Library – Joinville-le-Pont, France

Wayspot Title: Boîte à livres
Location: 48.8159420, 2.4690817
City: Joinville-le-Pont
Country: France

I am requesting the restoration of this Wayspot corresponding to a real and permanent Little Free Library that remains physically present at this location.

The Little Free Library was recently installed by the municipality of Joinville-le-Pont as a public facility. It is located in a publicly accessible area and remains in place today.

This case is particularly unusual because the same physical object has repeatedly disappeared as a Wayspot and subsequently been accepted again by Wayfarer.

The person believed to be behind this behaviour is well known among local Pokémon GO players as a player whose repeated actions have been disrupting other players’ experience for years. The local community has independently reached the same conclusion regarding these repeated incidents. I will submit the broader pattern separately as a Wayfarer abuse/harassment report.

My Wayfarer records show accepted nominations for the same physical object on:

– 7 July 2026
– 17 July 2026
– 24 July 2026
– 4 August 2026

The physical object remained present throughout this period.

I therefore had to submit essentially the same legitimate object four times in less than one month because the corresponding Wayspot repeatedly disappeared.

After the latest disappearance, a Wayspot representing the same object has now appeared further away at a slightly different location under the description under the description “Boite à livres JAUNE” (“YELLOW Little Free Library”).

The new Wayspot was positioned just far enough from its actual/original location that I can no longer access it from my home, whereas the previous correctly positioned Wayspot was accessible from there.

I respectfully ask Niantic to review the complete removal, submission and edit history of this Wayspot and restore it at the correct location.

I can’t see the little free library on streetview, do you have some pictures to proof the real location?

If the current location is accurate, there is no need to remove it (even if you can’t reach it from your house).

As in your other appeal please do not repeatedly resubmit removed wayspots.

This appears to be on school property

The red pin matches the coordinates you gave. This is at the front of a cool building at either end of the red tarmac there are barriers so it seems that the paved area where this is located is on school property so is ineligible.

Someone has resubmitted it and it is in the data base at the wrong location as the satellite image shows. I think this is a single family home but it is clearly mispinned and needs to be removed.

Thank you both for your replies.

I can clarify the location and I have just taken several current photographs of the Little Free Library and its surroundings.

The Little Free Library is not located on school grounds. It is located in the street, on public municipal space, with normal pedestrian access.

There is indeed a school nearby, but the photographs make the physical separation particularly clear.

In the wider photographs, the school entrance can be identified by the sign “Groupe scolaire Simone Veil”, the French and European flags, and the entrance to the building. The area associated with the school is physically separated from the street by the line of bollards and fencing.

The Little Free Library is visibly positioned on the other side of this boundary, directly alongside the public pedestrian area. It is therefore outside the school grounds: a person can walk up to it and use it directly from the public street without entering or crossing the school area at any point.

One of the photographs deliberately shows both the Little Free Library and the school entrance in the same wider view, so that their respective positions and the physical boundary between them can be clearly identified.

The Little Free Library was installed by the municipality of Joinville-le-Pont only a few weeks ago as a public facility.

This also explains why it cannot be seen on the current Google Street View imagery: the Street View imagery predates the installation of the Little Free Library.

I am attaching current photographs taken today showing:

  • the Little Free Library itself;
  • its direct pedestrian access from the public street;
  • the wider surroundings;
  • the school entrance and its identifying sign;
  • and, importantly, the physical separation between the school area and the public area where the Little Free Library stands.

The Wayspot is located at 48.8159420, 2.4690817.

Regarding the other point, I also understand now that when a Wayspot is removed, I should appeal the removal rather than submit the existing POI again. I was not aware of this procedure when the previous removals occurred, and I will of course use the appeal procedure in the future.

Thank you for reviewing this and I hope these current photographs clarify the situation.

Thanks, it does look it isn’t at school property

Open Street Maps does show this location (red pin) as School Property.

Whether it has Public Access does not change it, if it’s school property then in it ineligible.

Edit, had a second look, you are right,

the tiles belong to the school

I can not vouch for Open Street View’s accuracy but this is a question that the OP will need to prove to staff if they want it returning.

I also believe that PoGo uses Open Street Map to determine its Biomes so it is possible they use it for other reasons too (not 100% sure and happy to be corrected).

I think an official property map is needed.

The small fence is only partially along walkway. The paving is continuous whether the fence is there or not. The barriers that allow controlled access to stopping next to this area was something that made think this was a controlled area where the school was responsible.

I think the aerial view may have caused some confusion about the layout, so I am adding an annotated aerial image to clarify it.

The bollards and barriers separate the school property from the public space in front of it.

This public space itself consists of two clearly distinguishable parts:

– a red-surfaced vehicle access lane, used for service vehicles, deliveries and emergency access. Vehicle access to this lane is controlled by road barriers at both ends;

– a wide light-grey paved pedestrian area, running alongside the vehicle lane and directly accessible from Rue de Paris.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZEAabwdqMtX06_Py-qv8Ov4zspAB9xhZ/view?usp=drivesdk

The Little Free Library is located on this public pedestrian area, on the public side of the bollards and barriers separating it from the school property. No school gate or entrance needs to be crossed to reach it.

I have marked the vehicle-access barriers in red and the public pedestrian area in green on the attached aerial image. The recent ground-level photographs I provided above show the same layout and make the separation between the school property and the public space particularly clear.

The Little Free Library was installed by the municipality only a few weeks ago, which explains why it does not yet appear on Street View.

I have also found this map published on the official website of the City of Joinville-le-Pont https://www.joinville-le-pont.fr/vie-municipale/territoire/plan-de-la-ville/ I understand that the underlying cartographic data appears to come from OpenStreetMap, so I am not presenting it as an official cadastral or property-boundary document. However, I think it is useful because the boundary shown on the City’s map corresponds very closely to the physical separation visible on the current photographs.

The bollards and railings separate the school area from the area open to the general public. On the street side of that separation, the public space consists of two distinct parts: a red-surfaced lane used for vehicle access (including service, delivery or emergency access), and a paved pedestrian area between that lane and the school boundary. The Little Free Library is installed in this paved pedestrian area, on the public-facing side of the bollards/railings, and can be accessed directly from Rue de Paris without entering the school area.

I have also checked the French cadastral map following the comments above. The cadastral parcel does appear to extend over this area, so I withdraw my earlier assertion that the Wayspot is necessarily outside the school’s cadastral property. However, the cadastral parcel alone does not seem to resolve the question of the actual status and use of this particular strip of land.

In practice, this area has been laid out by the municipality as an open pedestrian space, permanently accessible from the street. https://drive.google.com/file/d/151bc4iNlN4waQAd506JBNj4i6Offd-Er/view?usp=drivesdk

The Little Free Library itself was recently installed there by the municipality for public use, which is why it does not yet appear on Street View. The adjacent school is a preschool/kindergarten, and the library is clearly positioned and intended as a public street amenity rather than as an amenity specifically for the pupils.

So I would appreciate clarification from the Wayfarer team on the relevant criterion here: is the K-12 exclusion determined solely by the cadastral parcel/property boundary, or can the actual legal/public use and physical configuration of the location also be taken into account where an amenity is installed in an openly accessible pedestrian area, physically separated from the school itself?

If the precise legal status of this strip of land is decisive, I can also contact the City of Joinville-le-Pont and ask them for an official document or written confirmation establishing the boundary between the school property and the public pedestrian/road space at this location.

Yes, you will need official confirmation, stating that the area is not part of the school grounds. Where I live usually school grounds are public property, anyone can walk there, still for wayfarer purposes not allowed.

Since the physical layout, the map published on the City’s website and the cadastral parcel do not provide an entirely unambiguous answer as to the status of this specific pedestrian strip, I will contact the City of Joinville-le-Pont and ask for official confirmation of the boundary between the grounds assigned to the Simone Veil school and the public pedestrian/road space along Rue de Paris, specifically at the location of the Little Free Library.

If they confirm that the Little Free Library is located outside the school grounds, I will post their response/document here.

Thank you for taking the time to look into it.

Hey @Infojerome ,

We stand by the removal of this Wayspot as it is on the property of a school. Please do not submit removed ineligible Wayspots again and again. It may lead to severe sanctions of your account.

Best,

(My heart on that comment was for the clear explanation from staff about this issue, not rejoicing over someone losing a pokestop, to be clear.)

Thank you for your response and for clarifying the applicable rules. I was not aware of this interpretation, and I understand it now.

For context, the reason I resubmitted this Wayspot was that several Wayspots in my immediate area had been repeatedly removed, and given an ongoing issue I have reported separately, I genuinely suspected that these removals might be part of targeted abuse. I therefore mistakenly assumed that the previous removal/rejection could have resulted from an automated process and that resubmitting the Wayspot with additional information was appropriate.

I apologize for the inconvenience and thank you again for explaining the rules to me. I will of course take this into account for any future nominations